Covid Certificates To Allow Fans In Stadiums – Culture Secretary

The Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden told SKY News this morning that the government is considering “covid certification” to allow spectators return to sport and other outdoor events.

Dowden told SKY’s Gillian Joseph that he hopes “to get people back in significant numbers by June 21st.” He said that a covid certificate is not a vaccine passport, but wouldn’t go into any more details.

Dowden’s cabinet colleague Michael Gove is leading a review into whether vaccine passports can speed up the reopening of society. One proposal is that people would download an app, which would contain the details of their covid status.

Simply put, you’d arrive at a restaurant and your server or greeter would scan your phone to see if you have had a vaccine, or if you recently passed a rapid covid test.

The system could be used at supermarkets, pubs, theatres, venues, stadiums or anywhere people gather. It’s already in operation in Israel. I’ve made my peace with the knowledge that I’ll never again see the inside of a music venue, a theatre or a pub.

I will not take their tests to prove that I am healthy. I will never take their vaccines. Life will be very different for me. It might become more difficult, but I will never give in to tyrants.

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Johan

And still the main issue to me is: Why do vaccine manufacturers have blanket immunity? Take away their immunity and see what their reactions are. Another question: will this blanket immunity be perpetual as vaccines and passports for it will surely be the ‘new norm’?

Backbeat

Short of physically forcing someone to take the gene experimental cocktail there is NO WAY they can force someone to take the the Devil’s Urine…

Backbeat

Johan, that alone would be grounds enough to refuse the the ‘Devil’s Urine vaccine’.

Backbeat

Ironic that big pharma is given blanket immunity, but we’re not permitted to try heard immunity.

Bob

They are lying. Just like everything else they’ve promised over the past year, they will keep moving the goal posts. They will never let up, and since there will be new corona strains popping up every year, we are doomed.

Jon Taylor

There needs to be push back against this rubbish. surly these tyrants have to get what is coming to them at sooner or later hopfully sooner rather than later.

Backbeat

Start by NOT wearing a mask; the more people see the like minded going baout their normal lives in a normal way, the more encouraged they’ll be to follwo suit. There is strength in numbers which is why the (current government) are pushing us so hard; they are beginning to become axious that the pysop (must find a new term) they’re running has begun to fall off the rails. Let’s face it, when people get desperate enough to resort to East Enders; their ropey scripts and jobbing actors, things mustbe getting bad.

Jon Taylor

I have not wore an mask form the start. i have not had the alleged virus either i have not had so much as a cold for the past 4 years so they can sod of with there experimental gene therapy to as i don’t need it.

Steve

I play local level football and im sure it will be a requirement to be vaccinated to play soon enough but my knees are shot anyway so it will do me a favour and force me to retire agqin

Gerry

I have now ‘officially’ seen it all!

Check this out:

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0321/1205220-lockdown-protest-dublin-court/

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ame

Business Secretary acknowledges that refusing services or employment to anyone who is not vaccinated against Covid-19 raises discrimination and other legal issuesLetter to Select Committee also confirms that a review of Covid-status certification has opened to consider the ethical, equalities, privacy, legal and operational issues of using certification
The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) Kwasi Kwarteng has acknowledged that refusing services or employment to anyone who is not vaccinated against Covid-19 raises discrimination and other legal issues.
As part of its inquiry into The impact of Coronavirus on workers and businesses, in a letter dated 24 February 2021 the BEIS Committee requested details of the potential legislation or regulations that may be needed in relation to the use of so-called ‘COVID passports’, the status of the government’s review into the use of certification, and what guidance the government intends to provide to employers and employees.
Mr Kwarteng’s response includes that –

‘There is no specific statutory provision which employers can rely on to require their staff to be vaccinated. While requiring a vaccination may nevertheless be legally possible in some circumstances, refusing services or employment to anyone who is not vaccinated does raise discrimination and other legal issues.’

In addition, Mr Kwarteng provides further details of the government’s review into the use of Covid-status certification – first announced in the Spring 2021 Covid-19 response on 22 February 2021 – saying that –

‘This will be led by the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, with full involvement from BEIS and other Government Departments. It will consider the ethical, equalities, privacy, legal and operational issues and what limits, if any, should be placed on organisations using certification. It will draw on external advice to develop recommendations that take account of any social and economic impacts, including for disproportionately impacted groups and individuals’ privacy and security.’

NB – a call for evidence on the role of Covid-status certification in the UK’s recovery from the pandemic was launched on 15 March 2021 and runs for a two week period until 29 March 2021.
Mr Kwarteng’s letter to the Select Committee (10 March 2021) is available from parliament.uk

Ronald Templeman

Just been confirmed to me that a friends sister in law who had the jab, went blind and now following 6 visits to hospital she has been told nothing they can do and she is now registered blind.
This bloody world is a disgrace and I wish everything evil on the lot running this scam and very much so on those in this country.

Backbeat

I’m so sorry to hear this mate. If your sister in law is amenable; perhaps you could both post on social media, contact Richie and ask him if he’ll have you on the show? Just a thought or two. Try to remain strong. More power to you and your loved ones.

Urban fox

Very worrying, if people stopped from going even in shops. They may use the excuse of being private property. But they are running essential public services that are essential to life. Shopping on line, food shopping. Can drastically increase food costs. As specialy if like me, one gets all the bargains at the end of the day.And is no good for buying bread each day.
I’ve heard people say, some shops and businesses will start an alternative economy for unvaccinated.. This is wishful thinking in the extreme. Whilst the majority believe in the scam and are terrified. This would be business suicide. It’s just not realistic. The fact is, if this is not stopped, by any means possible. People will be faced, with get vaccination or starve. It really is getting that serious. And I still think very possible, benifits may be stopped as well for unvaccinated.
Horrifying video, David Icke site last night. Just 22 minutes long about Israel. It’s a must watch. Think it’s called, “happening right now” and is a new series of shorts, put out by Gareth Icke.

We have to stop this happening here!

Michelle

This one went around early on in this mess, but I think it’s worth repeating here (apologies if someone has already said it, haven’t read all the comments):

Certificate
Of
Vaccination
I
D (identification)
1 – A (1st letter of alphabet)
9 – I (9th letter of alphabet)

I asked a while back but no one seemed to have an answer, why is the name of this bloody virus pretty much always written in all CAPS? Is it because it’s an acronym?

Of course this could all be a coincidence…..

I’m with Richie, life is going to be very different for the moment but I’m not resigned to it being difficult. In numbers we have the power to create our own fun outside of their organised BS. To be honest, I stopped going to festivals and the like as soon as the BBC got involved because it just spoiled the vibe for me. But these things were created by ordinary folk like us – we can do it again and make our own rules!

Ronald Templeman

This clown Oliver Dowden is my so called MP, obviously I never voted for him as one only has to take one look at him to make the decision. Written to him a number of times re this covid and so has a friend of mine, now he will not respond to either of us.
I have tweeted him to point out that he is acting against the Nuremburg Code and if I can’t travel in the future because of him I will do all I can to get him out. The longer this whole charade goes on the more anger I feel towards these no hopers and their so called advisers running this country

Patricia Deakin

I’m with you on that Richie I’m sick as a pig! I’ll survive not been able to do the things I always enjoyed without thinking about it. It’s the children and grandchildren I weep for, we can’t expect them to give up on all the things that make life more enjoyable.

ame

‘History has taught us the importance of holding certificates and papers to participate in normal life….either a QR scan or what ever new name it still the same -ends the same way
comment image Question is this, why should we have a government certificate to live our lives? We didn’t need a certificate to procreate and conceive, yet once we breathe a single breath of earth air, we no longer belong to the maker, we belong to the government. Who made them God? Bart asked.

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Craig

A certificate to procreate and conceive? Not yet.

Jennie

In Israel they have been experimenting with growing mice in artificial wombs. You have to ask why are they doing that. Brave New World here we come.

Herb

I recall some months ago David Icke was saying that a human embryo was grown successfully for 13 gays in an artificial womb. At this point due to “ethical reasons” they are not allowed to go to 14th day so they killed it. But the bottomline is that the only thing that is stopping them to go any further now is that “ethical deadline”.

ame

test tube babies been about for decades.

Gene Hunt

Slightly off topic – Richie, hope you don’t mind me plugging a podcast you did on Alchemy Radio way back in March 2016. Stumbled upon it in the middle of last night……… Absolutely gripping stuff about Richie’s life & journey to where he is today. Unmissable. Catch it on Podomatic – “Alchemy 074”.

Patricia Deakin

I just did, interesting to listen to his take on Ireland. I’ve been asleep for all of my 68 years and only just came across independent radio. What an eye opener! I love Ireland and its crazy funny people but I think they are all still asleep. They are so compliant. I heard Richie mention Clare Daly on that chat with John Gibbons, where is she now? She would have been a great opposition to main political parties in the past. What’s her views on this situation? I wonder?????

Tim in Brazil

“a covid certificate is not a vaccine passport” What the f*ck is it then?

Craig

A different combination of words.
Apparently, that is all that is needed these days to deceive people.

Zac Baled

The pot calling the kettle black!

Surely the sheeps have to wake up now? They mocking everyones intelligence openly now.
Bend over sheeples take one for the Team!!
Haaaaa! Where is that friggin wall!!
Timeout for me. *T*

Rico

Readily prepared to not frequent anywhere that demands ‘my papers before entry’.. the sheep love this virtue signalling shit, you can see them all with their ‘I had my vaccine’ bullshit. I may post an ‘I had my Tetanus booster’ image in solidarity…dickheads.

easydoesit

Bear in mind the take up within minorities, my view is rightly or wrongly, that a test may be offered in lieu of the jab!

Ronald Templeman

As well as the jab they can stick their test that’s a total waste of space.

Kay

It’s still hard to believe into which fascistic society we have been driven into in just one year. I sometimes wonder if I’m dreaming and then realisation kicks in…I WILL NOT have any vaccine and WILL NOT have any swab stuck into any orifice to prove I’m healthy.

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frank

Considering this…
Lying bare faced about that..
Concerned about the other..

#NOTMYGOVERNMENT

Gene Hunt

At the beginning of the scamdemic the government were denying that any of these new rulings would ever be brought in. But of course here they are, by stealth. And of course many of Joe public are lapping it all up, looking no further than the ends of their noses. And with the majority on their side, the government will be unstoppable with pressing further ahead!

frank

i knew they’d use other countries draconian decision to force the UK public hand. “Do it for Granny!!”. Guilt trip the masses. “You want to go back to your hedonistic lifestyles right? Take the jab, we’ll give you papers to show on the facefook”

Craig

We are also seeing how the hyper focussed Brexit debacle has played into their hands. All that focus on the democratic will of the people.
It’s not so pleasant, is it, when you find yourself in opposition to the ‘democratic will’?
Of course, there has been no vote on these government measures; and there can be no vote on how the private sector run their businesses (otherwise they wouldn’t be private).
Likewise, there is no credible opposition in government or the legacy media.
But the masses won’t see it that way. They have come to a collective decision (and many believe it is of their own free will); they see the light at the end of the tunnel; and with flaming brands and pitchforks, they will have their way.
Rather than mingling with them in an attempt to steer them from their herd response, we need to stand clear.
Self preservation demands it.
Because we know that if we do not the mob will inevitably turn against us; and we know that the light in the distance is a great train speeding closer.

Gene Hunt

At first they’ll take our recreational pleasures away, they’ll put an end to all the activities we enjoy, splitting us from family & friends.
Then they’ll come for our jobs & our ability to earn an income. And by then it’ll be to late.

Pixie

I am also resigned to not going anywhere again BUT there is still a chance. If enough of us hit businesses where it hurts by not attending, then those businesses will have to adapt to us or die.

Craig

That’s a nice idea, but there are simply not enough people on board with the idea to effect that kind of change.
Besides, pretty much all of the companies you are talking about operate in China. They could lose the custom of the whole UK and it would barely make a dint.

Mark

So its really just a Vaccine passport. Its just that its been given a different pink and fluffy cuddly new name, a Covid Certificate. Makes it sound like some sort of award. Just wait for the mission creep on this one. What did we do to deserve these fascists?

Craig

People, these days, love their certificates. You could say they’ve been primed for it.
As for what did we do to deserve this? We allowed ourselves to be distracted.

Gerry

You know, there are many many people remaining to repel this and more than enough to wreak havoc on any business or establishment that might prevent citizens from entering their premises.

Not that I’m condoning or inciting anything untoward, but I do envision a time when many businesses and venues will be left smouldering due to these restrictive decisions.

One only needs to look at the BLM protests in the USA to see what can happen when folk ‘go on one!!’

Just saying… You know!!

A case of reaping what you sow perhaps??

🤔

Tom

Agree with the sentiments re passports and such but I’m afraid BLM were not “protesters” and absolutely, definitely positively were not “folk”… Ashley Babbitt shot dead at Capitol Hill… BLM *allowed* to intimidate, terrorise and murder around 20 people over months… never mind the brutal assaults and destruction.

Gerry

The BLM protests are simply a reference to what happens when people get upset about an issue that concerns them… Right or wrong, many businesses and buildings suffered as a consequence… The point in this instance is, if businesses (or other!) decide they are not going to allow citizens into their premises because they are “unvaccinated” , on their heads so it shall be.

👍

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Craig

The only businesses significantly impacted by those riots were the small and medium sized ones (the same ones being destroyed by lockdowns, oddly enough). The riots only strengthened the big corporations.

Gerry

I know about the inner workings of the ‘BLM’ scam and indeed one could suggest that there are similarities to the analogue you mention.
But, the bottom line here with this example is; should businesses be allowed to trade ‘unchallenged’ when they refuse admittance to their premises by unvaccinated but otherwise healthy individuals…??

My answer is a resounding.. NO.

And I for one would not be sympathetic to any business who sought to implement such dystopian sanctions and in turn received countermeasures that prevented them from doing so…

Regardless of the level of ‘countermeasures’ taken!

One ‘bad’ turn deserves another in my books!

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Craig

And, thus, your actions further the Agenda.
Catch 22.

Gerry

And, thus, there’s always a catch.. but perhaps desperate times call for desperate measures??

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Craig

Why must we always equate ‘desperate measures’ with violence?
We need to find a better way.
Only by doing this do we prove that we are not the children our overlords think we are.

Craig

It’s worth noting that business premises are private property. They have always had the right to deny entry to anyone, without reason. They just rarely exercise that right.
Seeking to destroy a business because they exercise their rights wanders into the realm of ‘cancel culture’.

Gerry

Rights to deny access for healthy citizens… Very cancel culture indeed!

Craig

Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Besides, most people will have the vaccine and will be only too happy to carry proof of such.
Your response would be to deny the majority the right to choose where they shop.

Gerry

And your response would be to endorse majority rule over Inalienable human rights it would appear..

Craig

Not at all.
I’m just trying to point out that destroying a private business because they won’t let you in is both petulent and unhelpful.
If you don’t like the way they do business, go somewhere else – I know I will.
Why deny everyone else the opportunity to use that business simply because you are upset?
We need to find work-arounds to these problems; not resort to the thug rule of ‘burn it down’. That is nothing more than mini tyranny.

Gerry

So, forcing people to be vaccinated with an experimental therapeutic under duress isn’t “thug rule”..?? And your explicit reference to “burn it down” are your words, not mine.

Urban fox

Hi Gerry, good to see you there.

Very worrying, if people stopped from going even in shops. They may use the excuse of being private property. But they are running essential public services that are essential to life. Shopping on line, food shopping. Can drastically increase food costs. As specialy if like me, one gets all the bargains at the end of the day.And is no good for buying bread each day.
I’ve heard people say, some shops and businesses will start an alternative economy for unvaccinated.. This is wishful thinking in the extreme. Whilst the majority believe in the scam and are terrified. This would be business suicide. It’s just not realistic. The fact is, if this is not stopped, by any means possible. People will be faced, with get vaccination or starve. It really is getting that serious. And I still think very possible, benifits may be stopped as well for unvaccinated.
Horrifying video, David Icke site last night. Just 22 minutes long about Israel. It’s a must watch. Think it’s called, “happening right now” and is a new series of shorts, put out by Gareth Icke.

P.S just sent you private message.

Gerry

Got that Fox.
I will look into David and Gareth’s site asap.
Thank you.

Craig

Don’t play that game, Gerry. You know what I meant.
Yes, trying to force vaccination is thug rule; but responding in kind is playing by the overlord piper’s tune.
BLM’s rampages didn’t progress their movement – wealthy and connected bilionaires behind the scenes did that.
What they (mostly white people destroying black neighbourhoods) did do is progress the agenda of re-segregation that is now gaining pace.
So, what I am suggesting is that we shouldn’t behave in the expected, common fashion.
I am suggesting that we need to be better than that.

Gerry

I’m not playing any games Craig.
The game playing days are over now.

Plus this appears to be ultimately an entirely different argument to what my initial post was, so I do not appreciate the accusation.
However, I do see your points and with respect to you, you’re every bit as entitled to them as I.

I do not endorse thuggery on any side of this divide, but the overlords do not have that same conscience or ‘game plan’ on their side it would appear.

So… Any business that decides to implement the overlords decrees, should be prevented from trading or having a business in the first place.

That’s my argument.. and my opinion or reasoning for this argument, will not be changing.

Craig

I’m aware of that. I know your argument. I understand it; where it comes from and what drives it.
Unfortunately, as we all know, too many people are already on board with the idea – and more will, inevitably, take it up. Any actions that we sceptics take that negatively impact that majority will work against us and undermine any arguments we try to make in the future.

Gerry

Craig, we cannot allow this level of discrimination to take place in society.

I don’t know for certain if my predictions will come to fruition and like you, I genuinely pray that it doesn’t come to this, nor do I want to live in a society where this starts happening.

But it has already begun now, the lines have been drawn and I’m now gravely concerned of the direction of where it’s very very quickly headed.

I’m fully onboard with exhausting every possible avenue to prevent this, but I don’t believe our overlords are thinking likewise, so there ‘in my opinion at least’, lies your problem.

Time will be revealing I guess.

And we can but hope and pray for a better outcome for all.

Craig

To be honest, I think we’re stuffed whichever way we turn.

Gerry

I think your redesignation of Agenda 21 to “Agenda Catch 22” is an excellent one.
👍

Mick

Certificate Of Vaccination IDentification = COVID 😛

frank

it was right there all the time….

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